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LoNeSoMeTiGaR









Since: 04-30-02
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Posted on 06-07-02 07:04 PMQuote | Edit | Delete
I don't know if this is 'illegal' but I'm just really fed up with those bots jamming me and looting me. Anyways, I was playing RO one day, and this guy was able to disconnect a bot. I asked him how but he said he can't tell. Can anyone tell me how? If not then I can understand why.

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DaiSHi

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Since: 05-03-02
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Posted on 06-07-02 09:02 PMQuote | Edit | Delete
sorry, but dc'in them usually results in them hammering the servers and creating insane amounts of lag or downed servers. as much as i wish there were a way to completely crash their computer... we're gonna have to not dc them with the current method; and i heard it's not working as well at it used to...

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Doompie









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Posted on 06-07-02 09:47 PMQuote | Edit | Delete
I know how to disconnect them but...if to many people know it and it gets spread to much the login server wont hold it any longer...
People allready complain to me when Im using it and they blame me of causing the login server downage..but its generally the bots that are to blame.
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Posted on 06-07-02 10:40 PMQuote | Edit | Delete
thanx for holding the info Doompie.

speaking of crashing, stupid RO keeps crashing all of a sudden... my swordman was in payon3...i managed to get him out...and i went to orc with my party, after an mvp, i keep crashing. my thief crashes in payon1. my merc in payon is fine though... any ideas?

edit: lovely, all my characters crash now... i'm done with rag for the day...

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9186 exp and counting...
Flower girls are the cutest... but not as cute as my Tina

(edited by DaiSHi on 06-07-02 05:47 PM)
Doompie









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Posted on 06-07-02 10:48 PMQuote | Edit | Delete
Dont use any bot because I crash every bot I see on my way
LoNeSoMeTiGaR









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Posted on 06-07-02 10:59 PMQuote | Edit | Delete
Well in that case, then it's completely fine

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ParA









Since: 05-25-02
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Posted on 06-08-02 01:26 AMQuote | Edit | Delete
i do NOT recommend crashing every single bot. just crash the bots that ks and loot you. the login servers get totally hammered by the bots because of their persistance.

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LoNeSoMeTiGaR









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Posted on 06-08-02 05:31 AMQuote | Edit | Delete
That's what I wanted to do Par A. I mean, i dont have problem with bots just as long as they stay out of my way

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HyperSauce









Since: 04-28-02
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Posted on 06-08-02 06:49 AMQuote | Edit | Delete
Since most bots madly pick up items I wonder if they can get overweight?
DaiSHi

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Posted on 06-08-02 08:48 AMQuote | Edit | Delete
Originally posted by HyperSauce
Since most bots madly pick up items I wonder if they can get overweight?


i'm guessing they probably have a limit you can set. obviously mages and sm dont' want to be overweight...

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Flower girls are the cutest... but not as cute as my Tina
LoNeSoMeTiGaR









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Posted on 06-08-02 08:56 AMQuote | Edit | Delete
bots do get overweight but they have access to NPC anywhere. so they can sell items anywhere in map.

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Posted on 06-08-02 09:14 AMQuote | Edit | Delete
Originally posted by LoNeSoMeTiGaR
bots do get overweight but they have access to NPC anywhere. so they can sell items anywhere in map.


darn, then i can't fill them up with heavy red herbs or jelopies... another hope down the drain...

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Avaj









Since: 06-04-02
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Posted on 06-08-02 11:46 AMQuote | Edit | Delete
Now the best bot crasher woulden't just make them lose their connection, it would blow up their computer to.
ParA









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Posted on 06-08-02 03:29 PMQuote | Edit | Delete
some bots dont even pick up items....... i remember some bots just leave blue gemstones on the floor and it doesnt pick them up. but anyways bots have their limits on picking up items. they tend to pick up a certain amount of items and after they stop because of their programming. other bots lack the ability to pick up items since they are the standing bots.

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LoNeSoMeTiGaR









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Posted on 06-08-02 06:25 PMQuote | Edit | Delete
well bots have options like "Looting" or "Pickup items". a lot of them dont pick up items and just stand there at once place and wait for monsters to come

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The_THIef









Since: 06-15-02
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Posted on 06-15-02 04:03 PMQuote | Edit | Delete
Don't u guys feel that getting more 'rubbish' aat payon 3?
Those rubbish making me angry can looted my stuff.
I really need guilde to crash those rubbish .

Rubbish=bots
Ysuki









Since: 05-03-02
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Posted on 06-15-02 11:32 PMQuote | Edit | Delete
Payon 3 bots are mostly KS'ers have increased alot about 200-300%. There was so many people and most of them are bots. I saw 11-12 bots on the same screen goign after the same Muank walking in the same pattern. And they also cause me a lot of lag which I eventually die less than 5-10mins.
sakura









Since: 06-18-02
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Posted on 06-18-02 06:15 PMQuote | Edit | Delete
I agree, there should be a program for people to crash bots. It's not fair that I can only manage to login for a couple of times this whole week. And at times when I can login, the stupid bots drives me nuts especially when they keep on SKing my monsters =( I was hoping their would be a program to d/c all bots within my proximity so I can at least enjoy the game. It's not fair that bots have the ability to warp right infront of your monster and steal your kill.

I too know that d/c'ing all the bots at once will cause login problems, but I think it's for the best. I don't like the fact that they can play anytime they wish while others can't. Now if the server went down for at least a day or so, people will start complaining to gravity and perhaps they will deal with the bot issue that's interfering with the game.
Ysuki









Since: 05-03-02
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Posted on 06-18-02 10:57 PMQuote | Edit | Delete
If you get disconnected when going to another map, now how would you log back in. IF it crashes the client, then it's better since someoen actually need to laod teh program again. But this only disconnects bots which they hammer the login server and you can't login next time you want too.
DarkByte









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Posted on 06-19-02 11:30 PMQuote | Edit | Delete
I am sad to tell you that crashing a bot isnt as simple as crashing the RO client.

Bots are mostly writted in separate program, and the bots programmers have ways to discard whichever info they dont use/need. The only way bots could be stopped would be by changing the protocol (which is pretty simple by itself). I have no idea why Gravity doesnt do it.

Also, if Christy just went in the game, loaded a Map (like Yoyo forest), and started freezing accounts, say, 50-60 accounts, then, posted on the Gravity Board that she will do so every day. My guess is that Bots/Cheats would turn to less than 0.1% in a matter of 1 or 2 days. She will have for about 1 week work (at most) of watching the botters and freezing accounts. Then, they could give her a nice client that reports logged users that she put in a watch list. Next time they log, a message show, she uses a special "watch user" command on her special Rag client and she can watch that user to see if he's a bot at that time.

There are many solutions to stop the bot plague but Gravity seems too busy with Beta 2 to do anything now. Also, even if she took only 15 mins and froze 10 accounts only then posted a notice, people would become scared of botting. 95% of actual botters are lazy players that do it just because Gravity doesnt do anything against botters. If Gravity starts freezing accounts they will stop botting so they dont lose their player.
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