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bumby
 
   
  
 
 
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I see allot of without a trailing ; on the page. I dont know about IE, but I guss without the ; is a IEML thing. Would be nice if you could put some ; after those spaces to make the page a little more w3c compatible.
sleepy time, nightynight. ZzzZzz
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Makoto
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| i think hes got a strange web browser thats not IE, and all the spaces in his web browser use ; after the spaces, or somthing :s |
bumby
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nono,
" =space"
" !=space"
that is, a is rendered as a space in all w3c compatible browers
and a is renderded as a " ", so I get allot of blabla.
For example
" Konnichiha! And welcome to Sasami's Ragnarok World."
My guess is that a without the trailing ; is rendered as a space anyways in
microsoft explorer.
I'm using mozilla btw. Call it a strange webbrowser, but atleast it follows the html
standard 
[edit] see http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/sgml/entities.html
[lost of edits here]
I just relised all my 's are rendered as spaces on in your browsers,
so my previus post must have been hard to understand, lol.
and nbsp
is what I'm talking about. Where the and = & and no space betwen the and and the nbsp.
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Sasami
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| ah unfortunatly, microsoft HAS taken over and now sets the html/internet standards with IE. |
Noiboi
 
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| I still don't understand. My suggestion, use IE. Its just plain easier that way. |
bumby
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Sasami> ah unfortunatly, microsoft HAS taken over and now sets the html/internet standards with IE.
Thats why I call it IEML ^_~
Noiboi> I still don't understand. My suggestion, use IE. Its just plain easier that way.
Hehe, I'v got tons of reasons not to use IE.
1. I'm mainly working in a linux system
2. IE is so full of bugs that you couldn't even count them if you had 65536 fingers.
3. Some of these bugs are buffer overflows that are exploit able making it possible to gain access to files on your comp by just surfing to a homepage.
4. I dont like micrsoft or any of their products. (and yes, I do have many reasons for this too)
5. Micrsoft webbrowser doesnt follow the html standard, a standard is made to be followed.
6. I dont like IEs interface. I want tabs in my browser, takes less desktop space.
6.1 You cannot disable popus with IE. YAY dont you love crack searching with IE!! ^_~
6.2 I _need_ my d: g: etc prefixes.
for example, when I do a google searche in my browser, I type (in the addressbar "g: keyword"). or if I want to check out a program on freshmeat i do "fm: proggie", or why not look up a dictionary word "d: word".
6.3 Sessions. where are the sessions? UH? I have to reopen those 10 windows and renterer those 10 addresses every time I want to do this? Hmm, that was probably hard to understand.
A session is simply a saved, hehe, session of all your addresses and windows/tabs.
Like for intance, if I make a webshop, I want the mysql refercene, I want a perl reference, etc etc. Then I just go to each of these sites in a different tabs/windows and the I save that session.
So the next time I work on my webshop, I dont need to go to these places again, I just open my webshop.session file 
6.4 and on it goes. ^_~
Please exucse my bad english, I'm very tired, lol.
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Makoto
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Originally posted by bumby
Sasami> ah unfortunatly, microsoft HAS taken over and now sets the html/internet standards with IE.
Thats why I call it IEML ^_~
Noiboi> I still don't understand. My suggestion, use IE. Its just plain easier that way.
Hehe, I'v got tons of reasons not to use IE.
1. I'm mainly working in a linux system
2. IE is so full of bugs that you couldn't even count them if you had 65536 fingers.
3. Some of these bugs are buffer overflows that are exploit able making it possible to gain access to files on your comp by just surfing to a homepage.
4. I dont like micrsoft or any of their products. (and yes, I do have many reasons for this too)
5. Micrsoft webbrowser doesnt follow the html standard, a standard is made to be followed.
6. I dont like IEs interface. I want tabs in my browser, takes less desktop space.
6.1 You cannot disable popus with IE. YAY dont you love crack searching with IE!! ^_~
6.2 I _need_ my d: g: etc prefixes.
for example, when I do a google searche in my browser, I type (in the addressbar "g: keyword"). or if I want to check out a program on freshmeat i do "fm: proggie", or why not look up a dictionary word "d: word".
6.3 Sessions. where are the sessions? UH? I have to reopen those 10 windows and renterer those 10 addresses every time I want to do this? Hmm, that was probably hard to understand.
A session is simply a saved, hehe, session of all your addresses and windows/tabs.
Like for intance, if I make a webshop, I want the mysql refercene, I want a perl reference, etc etc. Then I just go to each of these sites in a different tabs/windows and the I save that session.
So the next time I work on my webshop, I dont need to go to these places again, I just open my webshop.session file
6.4 and on it goes. ^_~
Please exucse my bad english, I'm very tired, lol.
my answers  (and why i DO use IE)
1: personly, i think linux sux, its no better then windows (IMHO) (also of note: i find that ALL OS's are unstable, theres no such thing as a stable OS)
2: ive not noticed a huge number of bugs in IE myself, and netscape has even more (as far as i can tell) and i havnt try'd any others, heh
3:*shrugs* wouldnt know about that, not that it concerns me, i have nothing private on here, i can always format in an emergancy and its HIGHLY unlikely to happen
4:lol, i love the age of empire series, and dungeon siege is also looking rather spanky (both MS games), there other products arn't really all that bad IMO, there a huge money grabbing monopalising company i agree, but so is every other company out there, there just not as successfull as MS, heh
5:wouldnt know that...
6:heh, im used to IE's interface, its fine by me
6.1:eeerrrm, i swear ive done that b4 :/
6.2:? O.o, didnt even know you could do that :/
6.3:use 'add to favorites'  (not quite as complete as your describing, but sufficiant)
and my own personly main reason:
99% of web sites always work correctly with IE
EDIT: typos
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bumby
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> 1: personly, i think linux sux, its no better then windows (IMHO) (also of note: i find that ALL OS's are unstable, theres no such thing as a stable OS)
I'v got my linux kernel to crash 1 time, and that was my own fault, I used console framebuffer wich was (is) experimental. You have probably just installed a copy of mandrake or redhat. They come with allot of unstable libs and programs, so it may seem unstable, still though, linux (the kernel) is stable.
Try using debian, or lfs (http://www.linuxfromscratch.org, my personal favo ^^), and you will get a whole new point of view.
> 2: ive not noticed a huge number of bugs in IE myself, and netscape has even more (as far as i can tell) and i havnt try'd any others, heh
surf your IE to securityfocus.net and search for msie (or ie, or internet explorer) in bugtraq, and read through thousends of bugreports. I don't know about netscape, haven't seen as many bugreports on it. I never used it.
> 3:*shrugs* wouldnt know about that, not that it concerns me, i have nothing private on here, i can always format in an emergancy and its HIGHLY unlikely to happen
Oh, nothing private you say, tell me, what's your ro password? ^_~
> 4:lol, i love the age of empire series, and dungeon siege is also looking rather spanky (both MS games), there other products arn't really all that bad IMO, there a huge money grabbing monopalising company i agree, but so is every other company out there, there just not as successfull as MS, heh
Tell me if I'm wrong, but those games are just published by MS, they haven't written them. Same goes to MS Visual Studio (that's actually the only "ms" program I think is well done, I have to say I miss it a little in linux, though, vim aint bad either ^_~ ).
> 6:heh, im used to IE's interface, its fine by me
lol, that's one way to reason.
> 6.2:? O.o, didnt even know you could do that :/
You cant, not in IE ^_~
> 99% of web sites always work correctly with IE
That's the "sadfull" truth :-P They have followed the html standard AND put in some of there own html tags and args.
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Sasami
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| So far the best OS I ever used (and i've tried them all from dos 2.0 to win 3.1 to linux to win xp) was windows 2000 advanced server edition... |
bumby
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How is a good os defined by you? I liked BeOS allot, but there's to few BeOS developers, so the amount of programs are a little too low. The best os I ever used is linux. no doubt about it. Good hardware suport, a stable kernel, lots 'n lots of programs, open source and of course free. But I guess its all about what you use your computer for. If you play lots of games and like to crack windows is the choice. Though, for development *nix is no doubt better. Imo, of course.
When I use windows things like this always goes through my mind "uh? I cant do that? why?" "where is the command prompt" "hey, is my tab key broken" "ls command not found, what the?" "grep command not found" "hmm, the comp froze, ohwell, I'll just ssh to it and kill the problem proggie, ooh, no sshd?" and on it goes. |
Makoto
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your right in what linux ive used, they only have red hat and mandrake at my Uni :/
but still, Linux is about as user friendly as assembly code, you have to be a programmer to use linux, heh, which, altho i am a programmer (well, im doing a computer science course, im sort of one) i dont like having to think just to run my comp and play a game, i just want to be able to mindlessly click on buttons and away i go
that and ive always used windows, i dont know any of these extra commands you speak of and i dont care about them either, as long as it works and doesnt fall over just trying to run a simple game im happy |
Sasami
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| I use the dos prompt in windows instead of explorer personally |
bumby
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You don't know what your missing Makoto ^_~
I hope you use 4dos Sasami ^^ |
Noiboi
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| I HATE LINUX. People might saw that Microsoft are evil but they're saints compaired with linux. I had it installed on 1 of my hard drives when I reied to remove it it totally fucked up the entire hard drive, linux partition and windows partition, trying to fix that somehow my other hard drive managed to fuck up. I maganged to partially fix it but ended up needing to replace them. I lost most of my university project because of that thing. |
bumby
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You cant blam linux for that, was probably you who screwed up.
Of course windows is more userfriendly, but it has too much limits. |
Sasami
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no, he is right, linux is quite evil when you try to remove the lilo partition, it has caused myself and many friends of mine great troubles. It messes with your master boot record a bit too much which you have to use a scandisk /mbr to fix... at least for mandrake that is.
[edit] and what limits are there on windows? if you know api protocols you can do almost anything you could want.
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bumby
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A fdisk /mbr usaly works without any problems. But as I said, i know it's not userfriendly, and if you dont know what you are doing, you can mess it about alot.
Windows has lot's of limits. For instance, one thing I really HATE about is its way to play smart.
I put in a new video card in my comp, start the comp and windows says "Yay I'm smart, I'v found a new video card here, do you want to install it?" I say "NO" couse I dont want to install it in windows, windows then askes for the windows 98 cd, and I have to click and click through thousends of wizards to get the damn os to start. Then the next time I start windows, what does it say? Yeah "YAY I'm smart, i found a new video card, do you want to install it" aarrr. And I cant stand all the wizard, they are even worse in xp, it's incradible, a wizard to freaking search for a local file! 
And say if I want to do 1000 subdirectories. lol. not that I know why one would want to do this, but just for an example.
In linux I would do a simple shell command
for i in `seq 1 1000`;do mkdir $i;cd $i;done
In windows I would either have to start explorer and sit and click with that mouse for some hours,
use windows extreamly bad command prompt and write a
doskey mkdir 1 ENTER cd 1 ENTER 2 ENTER backslash 2 ENTER
and so on.
Or I would have to write a whole program for it using some mkdir api.
I could list oo of examples like this, for everyday stuff. It's just that a used windows user don't know what they are missing. I'v myself used windows allot before I used linux, switched to linux, didnt like it switched back to windows, and back and forth for a while. I know the disadvantedages and advantadges of both os:es. But when you know your linux system, it's allot more powerfull then windows. And much stable too, lol. And free ^_~ |
Sasami
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ok, i'm chaning api protocols to programming in general, I can do virtually anything in windows through programming, and visual basic makes doing tasks like these easy to do and fast to implement. For example, your directory problem i could do something like that in about 1 minute of typing in vb --
Dim CurrentPath as string
Dim count as string
CurrentPath = "c:\startpath"
for count = 1 to 1000
currentpath = currentpath + "\" + "DirCount" + trim$(count)
mkdir currentpath
next count
soemthing like that. |
bumby
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| sure, I know you can do lots of stuff with the win32 api. But still, that takes you atleast 1 min, I write a lil shell command in some seconds. Say you want to do something more advanced. Like grabbing pices of information from one file and merge with pices from another. The nice lil grep progam or awk can easly be used in different combination for such a thing in a single one line shell command. I'm just saying that what I'v experienced, I get alot of more work done in linux then in windows. And after using linux for a while I get irritaded on allot of things in windows (mostly all those damn wizards). |
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