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LouckyLoc









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Posted on 09-01-02 08:12 PMQuote | Edit | Delete
can we play it ? thx u ^^
or can we play ragnarok online beta 1 ?
DaiSHi

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Posted on 09-01-02 11:02 PMQuote | Edit | Delete
Originally posted by LouckyLoc
can we play it ? thx u ^^
or can we play ragnarok online beta 1 ?


u need an alpha server in order to play alpha... unless someone emulates one like they did with bnet servers and the w3 beta testing
same goes for beta1

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MingShun









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Posted on 09-02-02 02:38 AMQuote | Edit | Delete
Haha, kudos to whoever has the time to remake the server.

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LouckyLoc









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Posted on 09-02-02 07:08 AMQuote | Edit | Delete
where can i find it ? thx u ^^
BakedBeans









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Posted on 09-02-02 09:54 AMQuote | Edit | Delete
NO, you can't play alpha and you probably won't ever. Wait until the regular ragnarok is back up again when Gravity announces it.

sheesh, some people always need a straight answer now don't they
lagwagon









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Posted on 09-02-02 07:38 PMQuote | Edit | Delete
hey beans... never say never (god i hate that saying but i need to say it.)

im sure its possible someone could emulate the alpha server.... but they would get in a lot of trouble probably if gravity found out and pressed copywrite infringement against them. =/

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DaiSHi

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Posted on 09-02-02 08:37 PMQuote | Edit | Delete
Originally posted by lagwagon
hey beans... never say never (god i hate that saying but i need to say it.)

im sure its possible someone could emulate the alpha server.... but they would get in a lot of trouble probably if gravity found out and pressed copywrite infringement against them. =/


it wouldn't be too hard to make a server that will work with an alpha client, problem is we don't know the specifics on the server side. it wouldn't be exactly like alpha, since we don't know the algorithms and code from servers. we'd hafta build our own based on the packets the client sends out and the packets the client expects. from there it's all up to the imagination of the programmer.

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MingShun









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Posted on 09-02-02 09:31 PMQuote | Edit | Delete
How could it be copyright if you build the server from the ground up? You didn't steal their code and make your own server...Is there some other clause in the copyright law?

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Posted on 09-02-02 10:03 PMQuote | Edit | Delete
Originally posted by MingShun
How could it be copyright if you build the server from the ground up? You didn't steal their code and make your own server...Is there some other clause in the copyright law?


if you're gonna use their client in the way not intended (by not playing on their servers) then you are illegally using their property. it's just easier to make a completely different game from scratch.

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LouckyLoc









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Posted on 09-03-02 02:07 PMQuote | Edit | Delete
i find a PSO Loader but i dont find a RO loader T_T
MingShun









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Posted on 09-03-02 02:49 PMQuote | Edit | Delete
Oh...then Kudos to those who can also remake the client...But it'd still be copyright because you'll be emulating their game huh?

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lagwagon









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Posted on 09-03-02 04:20 PMQuote | Edit | Delete
yes. the server sends commands for the client to display poring and jellopy..... which are all copywrited by lee myounjin
but speaking of copywrights and gravity, wasnt there a monster that was like the exact same thing as poporing in secret of mana?
well i guess if the name is different and it is just 1 shade lighter green... and the eyes are set higher..... then its not copywright i guess.

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(edited by lagwagon on 09-03-02 12:21 PM)
MingShun









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Posted on 09-03-02 09:13 PMQuote | Edit | Delete
Was it the rabbot? The weird bunny slipper that had a huge mouth? Doesn't look that much like a poporing...but it ain't green either. No idea

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lagwagon









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Posted on 09-03-02 10:34 PMQuote | Edit | Delete
nonono it was a green blob thingy and if you didnt kill it fast enough it would double... and double... and double... and it poisonedd you if it hit you. er thats what i remember, i havent played in a while

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MingShun









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Posted on 09-04-02 04:21 AMQuote | Edit | Delete
A heh, I forgot. Maybe I didn't get that far...
But from the description that you give, I, oh wait...that was the zombie. Same thing, they both poisoned you and pissed you off. Sigh... great game though.

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Posted on 09-04-02 07:59 AMQuote | Edit | Delete
hrmm to generate a ragnarok server would cost quite a bit. Who would spend their time making an alpha server and maintaining it?
MingShun









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Posted on 09-04-02 12:45 PMQuote | Edit | Delete
Maybe not one, perhaps a group.

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lagwagon









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Posted on 09-04-02 07:04 PMQuote | Edit | Delete
i wish i was a good enough programmer to create a server, or even good enough to be part of a group making one.... =(
well im still young and i havent even taken my first VB class yet... tomorrow is my first day of high school well i think i will succeed in the computer classes they offer at my high school =D

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Amenity









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Posted on 09-04-02 07:06 PMQuote | Edit | Delete
You'd get in alot of trouble though.
Sasami

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Posted on 09-04-02 07:55 PMQuote | Edit | Delete
I really doubt gravity would do much, especially if it was a private alpha server they couldnt access, it wouldnt take too much bandwidth or work either, just someone that really knows what they are doing and has a lot of time to get it all worked out. I wouldn't mind doing it if I didn't have a billion other projects... :-\ Don't want to exactly do anything illegal anymore either now that I am entering the "Real World".
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