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Sasami
Orc Hero

Joined: Feb 08, 2002
Posts: 313
From: Jurai (Currently Okayama, Japan)
Posted: 2002-03-23 04:20   
I know there is a lot of information here, sorry, but it's good reading, I promise! ^_^

Well, it's been a little under 2 months since I've played, and I feel much more refreshed. I said I would probably be coming back, but I have decided to stay away till final is released after all. One of the main reasons is the bots, that bothers me. I would love a reset. It's unfair that people can be high level with virtually no effort, and they deserve to be wiped, and the only way to get them all is a reset, i wouldn't mind loseing my lv. 50+ character and 25+ other characters if it ment we could all start over together, legit. I found a way to crash them using a buffer overflow, but I'm not going to release is cause it seems that people are harmonious in saying no external programs. For this same reason I have decided to not update the exp viewer and make it still show when your basic info window is collapsed, sorry to all you people that wanted it to work like that. I highly suggested to any of you who are quitting or thinking about it, to just step away and wait for final, when it's pay to play, and the true good people stay on and play with us, and when gravity actually has everything fixed (if this is possible). I may continue making external programs when final comes out, if it is needed. I have talked to Meph and Gravity both about some ideas I have had, including starting a 3rd party RO program site that had all the clean non cheating external programs that anyone made, and that way everyone would know of a safe place to download these programs, and they could be assured there were no Trojans or such (the bot was legit for a long time until the sex crash was put in it, although I wouldn't host something like that, it's a cheat, and someone else released a version with a key logger in it...) but anyways, it fell through. I will include Gravityís letter, although it makes me laugh, the situation of them not understanding a word I say is slightly bothersome. I also thought of another project I would like to do, but for this one I would need official approval from gravity, I wouldn't even start without it, but again, I don't think they understood. It may be something someone else wants to try to take over and hope gravity lets them implement it in a while - and that is to start a site of new character sprites that people make, and keep a good database of them all. Personally, I think it would be awesome to have my character look just like Sasami (like below... i'll get some better scans later ^_^) to everyone else in the game (which I know how to implement, but it would require everyone else downloading the stuff too, but if there were hundreds of new sprites, I don't think people would hesitate downloading it to see and pick from them all). A message to Meph and the other mods: please don't delete this, or move it to another forum, it will float off the front page after a while, let it run it's course please ^_^. Oh, one last note of business I have to take care of, please stop bothering the poor mods about their policies, it is their forums, their page, their decision. They can do what they want, all the arguments have been made and the Admins decided to stand their ground, so just leave them be. Here are the letters.

(The auto-calculate program I suggested in the letter would require the merchants to be at the keyboard, but I decided to abandon the idea because gravity won't give an official answer, I havenít edited these letters in any way)

Quote:
Dear Gravity,
This is Sasami again ^_^, the creator of the exp viewer. First, I still have not gotten a response from gravity about the exp viewer, if itís ok or not. Itís not a bad hack or malicious, only graphical really. I have decided to approach you with a few ideas. The first is, I would like to create a site of legit external programs for Ragnarok and I was wondering if you would officially support this. I would include programs such as my exp viewer, the monster database, and a new program I will make, if gravity is ok with it, that automatically calculates a certain % over base price for all the items you have for OC merchants so they donít have to take the time to calculate it out themselves. I will explain this in more detail if needed. I will check all programs first to make sure they donít hack your account or have anything bad in them, so people will have an official place they know ONLY to go to if they want an external program. Another idea I have is making a site for character sprites. I would like to make a way for people to make their own characters sprites and for them to be implemented all around Ragnarok, I know a way of doing this, but I would like gravities official approval first. Thank you for your time.



Quote:
Hello this is EnglishGM/Webmaster.
Sorry if you make your own fansite is OK,
But emulator for Ragnarok,we can't allow.
But anyway thank you for your great concern about Ragnarok.
Have a nice day.



Quote:
it seems you never understand a thing I say to you, it gets kind of annoying. This has nothing to do whatsoever with the emulator. This is talking about external programs that are not considered cheats. I would not support the emulator/bot, or the crasher, or malicious programs, I would have good programs on the site. Have you even seen the exp viewer or twintops monster database?




Hmm... here is one other line of conversation I've had with gravity from a much earlier date.


Quote:
Hello, This is Sasami, I have emailed gravity a few times in the past but I don't know if you have ever gotten my messages. First, I would like to ask about the exp viewer I have made. What it does it shows you your exp and how much you need to the next level. I included the source. Thousands of people on the server use it. Is this ok? I would really appreciate if gravity added this into the game (in alpha, they had these numbers instead of the bars.) I included the source code and screenshots of both the internal and external viewer can be found at http://www.castledragmire.com/ragnarok .
The assembly code I added is here
http://www.castledragmire.com/ragnarok/expviewer/asmss.jpg

I would like to thank gravity for all the time they put into trying and making the game better for us, and I would especially like to thank you Christy for letting us know what's going on, and trying to help where you can. *hugs*

I have decided to include some other suggestions (I have many more, but I decided to only include the important onces.)
An npc at the entrance to boss maps telling you how much time till respawn
A way to pass your zeny around to your other characters (I think a bank is being made for this.)
A way to remap your keys (like just click something instead of ctrl+click to hit something till it dies.(
And finally, the roda frog card gives a resource error.

The bot situation has become pretty bad in beta, I wouldn't mind a server reset in the end after this is fixed, but whatever gravity decides I will be ok with.




Quote:
Hello this is Gravity.
First of all
We need to time to consider.
We already noticed that players use the other EXP veiwer but We are not sure it's right or not.
Also We will figure out then let you know.
Thank you.



Geeze... I seem to have gone down about 150 posts since i left that while ago O.o DARN YOU MEPH! *shakes fist* ^_^

I love you all (well, most ^_^)! Have fun! Ja ne!

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Snadwitch
Golem

Joined: Feb 10, 2002
Posts: 192
From: hawaii
Posted: 2002-03-23 04:25   
Goodbye sasami.. I'll see you in the final.
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SwordSaint
Isis L.1

Joined: Feb 10, 2002
Posts: 585
Posted: 2002-03-23 04:25   
just in time for me to say good bye.. 2 years down the line
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Xeno
Orc Hero L.3

Joined: Feb 07, 2002
Posts: 486
From: earth
Posted: 2002-03-23 04:27   
you'll be back. just like everyone else! you can't leave RO. she will just bring you back with her claws. i'll give you 5 minutes. you'll be beggin to play!
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Spike
Thief Bug

Joined: Feb 07, 2002
Posts: 79
From: San Luis Obispo, CA
Posted: 2002-03-23 04:30   
Well, until next we meet!

Sasami, thank you very much for all your great work and enthusiasm!
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mephisto_se
master of disaster

Joined: Feb 07, 2002
Posts: 631
From: south of heaven
Posted: 2002-03-23 04:31   
cya at retail

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DarkSide
Spore

Joined: Mar 05, 2002
Posts: 133
Posted: 2002-03-23 04:31   
Quote:

On 2002-03-23 04:27, Xeno wrote:
you'll be back. just like everyone else! you can't leave RO. she will just bring you back with her claws. i'll give you 5 minutes. you'll be beggin to play!




actually... she left about a month and 3 weeks ago, and she hasn't played since (to my knowledge), she told me she deleted it from her computer ^_^

[edit] damn, she made that too long ^_^ how many people actually read through all of it? hehehe

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Hades
Isis L.2

Joined: Feb 08, 2002
Posts: 604
From: Germany (but I'm Greek :-)
Posted: 2002-03-23 04:32   
xeno's right
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DarkSide
Spore

Joined: Mar 05, 2002
Posts: 133
Posted: 2002-03-23 04:35   
I'll make a bet with you xeno, 200k says she won't play anymore, how about we let it go for a month I know she has will power *crosses fingers* (anyone that sees her can get a Screen Shot ^_^)

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Xeno
Orc Hero L.3

Joined: Feb 07, 2002
Posts: 486
From: earth
Posted: 2002-03-23 04:35   
yeah sure!! "delete". why delete is in quotation marks i do not "know". i saw sasami playing yesterday! just sasmi's name was different. it was elana. but i know it was sasami!
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DarkSide
Spore

Joined: Mar 05, 2002
Posts: 133
Posted: 2002-03-23 04:37   
O.o she has 3 character names, Sasami, Sasamikun, and Sasamichan.

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Xeno
Orc Hero L.3

Joined: Feb 07, 2002
Posts: 486
From: earth
Posted: 2002-03-23 04:37   
Quote:

On 2002-03-23 04:35, DarkSide wrote:
I'll make a bet with you xeno, 200k says she won't play anymore, how about we let it go for a month I know she has will power *crosses fingers* (anyone that sees her can get a Screen Shot ^_^)


see i win! i saw sasami! here's a screenshot! if you cant see the image it's your fault! i will be expecting my 200k soon. thank you.


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DarkSide
Spore

Joined: Mar 05, 2002
Posts: 133
Posted: 2002-03-23 04:39   
*wonders if you will even get the right character skins when you tailor the names into the screen shots*
i love those sasami pictures! I wish i could do work like that...


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Thrilla in Manilla
Golem

Joined: Feb 09, 2002
Posts: 194
From: The Ghetto
Posted: 2002-03-23 04:40   
nice
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Ravlin
Condor

Joined: Feb 11, 2002
Posts: 90
Posted: 2002-03-23 04:45   
I'm not harmonius at all! Quick! Pass that buffer overflow thing to me! I must crush all evil bots with Sasami's Master Sword Bot Killer Program...hehe the revenge...Bwahahaha!

Ahem... Comming back to myself... It's too bad you're leaving. Though I never met ya or anything, I can't help but feel that RO is loosing one heck of nice player. Oh well, till final then!


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